{"id":999,"date":"2014-07-17T14:19:08","date_gmt":"2014-07-17T18:19:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/deliberatedumbingdown.com\/ddd\/?p=999"},"modified":"2018-12-21T09:01:45","modified_gmt":"2018-12-21T14:01:45","slug":"glenn-becks-choice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/deliberatedumbingdown.com\/ddd\/2014\/07\/17\/glenn-becks-choice\/","title":{"rendered":"Glenn Beck&#8217;s &#8220;CHOICE&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Glenn Beck, David Barton and their &#8220;choice&#8221; connections&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here is a PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of the radio interview with Louisiana activists, Karen Champagne &#038; Angela Alef on Charlotte&#8217;s WorldWideWeb, July 15, 2014:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Charlotte:<\/strong>  The gate is open, girls&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Angela:<\/strong>  We\u2019ve been very concerned about Glenn Beck recently; I think you have been too. We thought it would be important to share with your listeners our take on Glenn Beck&#8217;s role in all of this. Just as an introduction, because I know anytime people challenge or call-in to question any of Glenn Beck&#8217;s operations or theories or anything, they really come under attack as being not Christian or un-American. Especially, some people think we shouldn\u2019t dare challenge someone who talks so often about God and country. We certainly understand that, because we were those people at one point. <\/p>\n<p>Actually, to give people an idea of how much we\u2019re not haters just for the sake of creating conflict:  Back, way back, had to be \u201909, early in \u201909, maybe even\u2026 yeah, had to be. He was at CNN I think at that time, and my sister called me and she kept calling me and she kept saying, &#8220;Man, have you heard this Beck guy? You just really gotta listen!\u201d And, I wasn&#8217;t interested. I thought the world and the country was in just fine shape at that time. Finally, she got me to listen and I was just mesmerized and I learned a lot from him, I really did. But I\u2019m the kind of person who does my own research, and so I didn&#8217;t rely on him or anyone else solely for the information. And that\u2019s how I found your information which I do rely solely on. And my sister spearheaded his very first event that I think kinda kick-started his whole mega-millions structure that he\u2019s got going. It was the \u201cWe Surround Them\u201d event, and the idea was that, you know, we\u2019re not alone\u2026 there\u2019s more of \u201cus\u201d than \u201cthem\u201d\u2026 and, we believe that\u2019s true. But, it was such a good thing to hear at the time\u2026 it was very, very much a gravitational pull. And, so, my sister spearheaded that in New Orleans for him. And she was on the radio with him doing promotions and everything and we were very grateful for it and it was a huge, huge success in New Orleans. And, from that my sister started the Greater New Orleans Tea Party. As I started researching she knew way, way, way more than me at that time and was teaching me. But, as I learned more and started getting concerned especially in the childcare and the education realm, I started sharing that through the Greater New Orleans Tea Party. So, as I learned anything, they learned it.<\/p>\n<p>And, I was always very grateful to Glenn Beck \u2014 I got on his show by calling in one time because he was talking about education \u2014 and I thought he\u2019d want to know about a charter school out in Los Angeles, I believe it is. So, I got on and I was able to speak about it. But, it was i\u00ad\u00ad\u00adnteresting to me \u2014 and, it was the first twinge \u2014 that it didn&#8217;t really capture his attention. And, I thought that surely would do it. Not that I was trying to get his attention, but I thought it was something that he could really do research on and he just really never did.<\/p>\n<p>Then, as I\u2019m watching and he was at Fox News later, and I am watching for, you know, years \u2014 I finally got really concerned because he was talking about the One World Order and I know there\u2019s a few clips out there about this but the one that really struck me I haven\u2019t found on youtube, but it\u2019s similar&#8230;. He told us all that the One World Order was inevitable and we just needed to decide how we\u2019re gonna manage it once it was all in place&#8230;. And, I took great offense to that and that is when I turned off Glenn Beck because I\u2019m an American and, you know, our DNA just doesn&#8217;t have that in us which is why people are waking up and coming to the fight. And, for such a long time, you and your great researchers and activists were able to hold this off for us to finally wake up and join you, because that\u2019s not what we\u2019re made of and that\u2019s not what the United States of America is about&#8230;. You know, they may get what they want, but it won\u2019t be because we lay down and just give it to \u2018em which is what it felt like Glenn Beck was suggesting. \u00ad\u00ad<\/p>\n<p>The next thing that caused me great concern was recently he had an event where he got all of the ministers from all the different faiths and branches of religion together\u2026 and this clip is also out there if anybody wants to look for it. And, what he says to everyone \u2014 and, understand, Karen and I are Christian. But, now I\u2019m very concerned about what \u2014 since he feels that way about One World Order \u2014 I\u2019m very concerned about what his theories might be on One World Religion, because, at this event, he made a point to tell everyone that the message we have to give to everyone in the world and in the country is about \u201cGod.\u201d Well, as a Christian, my message to everyone is that Jesus lives and Jesus saves and in giving the message of the Word, you know, that\u2019s how we are free. It\u2019s a message of personal responsibility and freedom which is the same message we find in our Constitution and I just feel like that message is now getting lost. And, whether you are a Christian or not, you know, is not the point. My point is that was a very surprising message that I heard him giving at a time when he could have given the message that Christians are supposed to go out in the world to give.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Karen:<\/strong> I have the same, you know, background basically as far as listening to him. I actually started listening to him after I had started the Tea Party movement in my area. My concern, too, is the same thing\u2026 not only that but the people that he surrounds himself with and the people that he points to as experts \u2014 David Barton being one of them \u2014 and their background in history \u2014 and the Christian Reconstructionism \u2014 is what they are really all about. It\u2019s that theory that concerns me because that\u2019s not where my faith lies; and, I think that a lot of people need to understand that when they look at who they are going to follow and where they are going to follow them.<\/p>\n<p>David Barton speaks at a 2008 Dominionist event [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/beck-barton-six-degrees-and-seven-mountains\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/herescope.blogspot.com\/2010\/08\/next-great-awakening.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Charlotte:<\/strong> The theory, I understand from our great researcher, Sarah Leslie, who has incredible writings on the Internet \u2014 you can read about &#8220;Dominionism&#8221; at her blog  <a href=\"http:\/\/herescope.blogspot.com\/2010\/08\/next-great-awakening.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Herescope.com<\/a>. Her writing on Dominionism and Reconstructionism is vital for people to understand. This is the belief that they\u2019re looking toward the Kingdom of God on Earth which is surely NOT what we\u2019ve been promised as Christians. Never, never\u2026 so, this is unbelievable and it ends up, basically, moving towards \u00adwhat I talked about when I was introducing all of you \u2014 the Community Lifelong, Community Education concept to rebuild America\u2019s society in that image which is based, I believe on Old Testament Law which is \u201ceye for an eye; tooth for a tooth.\u201d This is certainly not what Jesus Christ came to expound, right? It has nothing to do with that and it\u2019s very, very scary and there are lots of people involved in this. Gary North certainly is the leader, I believe; and, you\u2019ve got a lot of other people that we are identifying now, too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Karen:<\/strong> Yes, North is a co-founder of this theory with his father-in-law who is R.J. Rushdooney. I wanted to add that because I think it is important for people to look up Rushdooney. [See, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talk2action.org\/story\/2011\/3\/15\/142615\/800\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">HERE<\/a>, ed.] He firmly believes in the Old Testament&#8230;. He believes that the punishment should be given here on Earth and that judgment should be made here on Earth for your behavior. So that, if you were going against God\u2019s will and what they believe God\u2019s will was\u2026 well, the punishment for the majority of the sins is death and that\u2019s basically what Rushdooney believes. Now, I don\u2019t know if all of the Reconstructionists believe as strongly in that as he did but I just think that it\u2019s important to point out that that\u2019s where it\u2019s founded. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Charlotte:<\/strong> A couple of days ago someone sent me an incredible article by a gal [Rachel Tabachnick] seen <a href=\"http:\/\/inthesetimes.com\/article\/13849\/the_right_wing_machine_behind_school_choice\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">HERE<\/a>. We\u2019re gonna put that up \u2014 it\u2019s actually quotes from Gary North in regard to the  kind of punishment you are talking about. I could not believe what I read.  [See <a href=\"https:\/\/deliberatedumbingdown.com\/ddd\/2014\/07\/17\/whos-who-behind-school-choice\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Who&#8217;s Who Behind School Choice<\/a> blog post]<\/p>\n<p>For those out there who are not politically savvy I do believe they will understand when they read these words out of the mouth of Gary North who, by the way, is involved with the Ron Paul\u2019s Home School Curriculum and Thomas Woods. Now, they can say that Gary North\u2019s views are not part of the Ron Paul Curriculum \u2014 it would be difficult for me to believe that Ron Paul would ever believe in what Gary North and Rushdoony believe. I have to say that having been a great follower, until recently, and supporter of Ron Paul. But, we will get that information out\u2026 the documentation that Gary North, is the son-in-law of Rushdooney. We\u2019ll get that out so that the listeners will know what this country is up against and they\u2019ll understand the role of School Choice here, as well. [Below are selected quotes from the article being discussed, ed.]<\/p>\n<p><em>The plan for a Ron Paul Curriculum has been in the works for several years.  American Vision, Gary DeMar&#8217;s Reconstructionist ministry, was soliciting readers in 2010 to contact Ron Paul and encourage him to support North&#8217;s curriculum plan.  North also wrote about the planned curriculum in 2010 on the blog of Lew Rockwell, founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute&#8230;<\/em> <\/p>\n<p><em>North is  advertising the program as home schooling curriculum and also as a way to start a profitable K-12 private school&#8230;<\/em> <\/p>\n<p><em>North is one of the leading thinkers and writers of Christian Reconstructionism, or the belief that the nation must be &#8220;reconstructed&#8221; according to biblical law.  He advocates the use of the &#8220;doctrine of religious liberty&#8221; in order to advance theocracy.<\/em> [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.talk2action.org\/story\/2013\/4\/9\/124434\/9216\/Front_Page\/Ron_Paul_Curriculum_Launched_by_Reconstructionist_Gary_North_and_Neo_Confederate_Thomas_Woods\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Angela:<\/strong>  Charlotte, I want your listeners to understand that the reason we are covering this is not because we are in the mood to preach to anybody \u2014 that\u2019s not our role; but, it\u2019s to understand as you are beginning to explain the politicization of religion which is happening and what that means down the line for Community Ed. and that they\u2019re gonna get to it through charters. <\/p>\n<p>But, it\u2019s important to understand \u2014 with my concern that\u2019s growing for this One World Religion along with the One World Government \u2014 is that there\u2019s a covenant&#8230; that has a Board of Directors on which Tony Perkins sits who is the head of Family Research Council. And Karen and I have been studying this and it details that we all need to be ruled through government according to the Old Testament. Now, when I processed that, what came to my mind was \u2014 isn\u2019t that really the only way to accomplish a One World Religion is by going to the Old Testament. It\u2019s something that the major faiths of the world can kind of come together under\u2014you know, under \u201cGod,\u201d not \u201cJesus.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>I just want people to think about it and to listen to the words coming out of these people&#8217;s mouths and really process the words coming off the papers that they write. Because, I do really fear that that\u2019s what they\u2019re helping to organize \u2014 community organize; and, we have to be very careful. <\/p>\n<p><strong> EXHIBIT A: Gary North quote<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>    <em>&#8220;So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy constructing a Bible-based social, political, and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God. Murder, abortion, and pornography will be illegal. God&#8217;s law will be enforced. It will take time. A minority religion cannot do this. Theocracy must flow from the heart of a majority of citizens, just as compulsory education came only after most people had their children in schools of some sort.&#8221;<\/em> [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.talk2action.org\/story\/2012\/1\/6\/14215\/07913\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gary North, Source<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>EXHIBIT B: David Barton with Dominionist &#8220;apostle&#8221; Cindy Jacobs of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Dominonists<\/strong> [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/beck-barton-six-degrees-and-seven-mountains\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/herescope.blogspot.com\/2010\/05\/mainstreaming-dominionism.html\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rightwingwatch.org\/content\/jim-and-davids-excellent-right-wing-adventure\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a>]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Glenn Beck, David Barton and their &#8220;choice&#8221; connections&#8230; Here is a PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of the radio interview with Louisiana activists, Karen Champagne &#038; Angela Alef on Charlotte&#8217;s WorldWideWeb, July 15, 2014: Charlotte: The gate is open, girls&#8230;. Angela: We\u2019ve been very concerned about Glenn Beck recently; I think you have been too. 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